What is #PEGIDA? (sad news from Germany)

I quickly want to go over what #PEGIDA is and why it exists. Basically it is a semi-nationalistic movement inside especially eastern parts of Germany that opposes migration to Germany and resembles a lot of thoughts that feel scaringly similar to the third reichs propaganda.

Actually I’d rather just write

Merry Christmas, everything is fine!

on this blog, but I feel obligated to write about this instead. Let me say up front that I myself am a fan of multi culturalism and an emigrant, I live in Denmark as a German.

So, what Germany is turning Nazi crazy again?

No, not exactly, but anti-semitic, anti-muslimic and basically the same ideas sipped through to a comparably large part of the population and protests against granting asylum to people in need are happening. Around 15.000 have participated in the protests.

The name stands for “Patriotische Europ√§er gegen die Islamisierung des Abendlandes”, basically “patriotic europeans against the islamisation of the occident”. The public television in Germany recently recorded about an hour of interviews among the participants, which showed a lot of disinformed and angry Germans exposing anti-semitistic views, paranoia and strong disagreements with the government policies on migration. This is shocking, because even though right-wing extremists are a lot more visible in the eastern parts of Germany, but usually not that many people from the rest of the population associate themselves with them.

The protests are targeting to prevent the spread of the Islam in Germany / Europe and to limit immigration. The interviews show, that the common right wing slogans actually dominate, even the call for “isolation and health checks” for foreigners was made.

Statistically 0,2% in the city of Dresden, where the demonstration happened, are actually muslims, which makes the fears of the protesters very irrational. From what I’ve heard from the interviews it sounds a lot like what I hear when I discuss right winged views with Danes.

It’s not about people like you Jonathan, but people from Arabia or THESE places.

Okay, thanks.. because people of a nationality should be judged a certain way. (I don’t often have much further contact with these people unless they’re at my workplace)

The Fear

Throughout the interview it becomes very clear, that the fears of individuals and common superstitions have basically boiled together in superficial discussions on social media and that’s how these people actually came together in real life, together with plenty of support from the real right-wing radicals. Most of the participants openly say that they are not Nazis, but 2 seconds after they go on about a common right wing / nationalist topic like that foreigners would bring diseases. (I can not believe I’m writing this)

The fears and concerns expressed often target that the foreigners do not deserve support or a right to live in Germany. Another woman said that if they are not in danger in their own country, they should (all) leave Germany. In the past decades the financial situation in especially parts of eastern has not been optimal and the unemployment rate is higher than in other parts, which geographically is close to Dresden.

Often mentioned points are:

  • not building mosques
  • not accepting asylum seekers

The huge problem about this entire idea is the generalization of foreigners as criminals, disease carriers, lazy and also terrorists. If we think back in history, we may have seen that once or twice. For me it’s basically a symptom for the huge frustration in parts of the population. Frustration with politicians, low incomes, the fright of the unknown.

Best / Worst #PEGIDA quotes

There is a pegida Tumblr blog for the really, really dumbest things these people said.

Wir sind das VOLK!

This means, “We are the people” and originally actually was commonly used at the demonstrations that lead to the fall of the GDR (eastern Germany) borders and therefore in a way is… slightly misused.

I don’t want the Islam as a state-wide religion

Germany actually has a pretty good separation of religion and state (also educational system).

The orders come from Washington and Tel Aviv

Interesting about this is that Tel Aviv is mentioned, because it usually comes up in conspiracy theories about the world order of Jews.

In the Islam infidels are worth less than cattle!

Wow big deal, you know how much shit is in the bible? Probably not.

The media destroy everything and lead it in a wrong direction.

Finally and not from the protests, but a great quote from two of my favourite podcasters is:

You have to realise you don’t have a foreigner problem, you have an asshole problem.

Think about it ūüėČ

Apart from being shown on the news, the full interviews have been published on the ARD/NDR website, here: Kontaktversuch: “L√ľgenpresse” trifft Pegida.

What now?

Since I’m following a lot of right wing activity through a watch blog called St√∂rungsmelder I’m aware that there are Nazis in Germany, still. Usually though, they and their ideals are not represented by 15.000 people.

Still, this phenomenon is a FRACTION of what happens in Germany, but it’s big in the media right now. I really hate to see this happen, that so many people fall for propaganda and generalizations, how people are being kept from answering the media, because the press lies.

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5 thoughts on “What is #PEGIDA? (sad news from Germany)”

  1. As a German, I’m really ashamed about Pegida. In my opionion, it’s a result of neo-liberal policy. Those who don’t have much let themselves being played off against those who have even less instead of turning to the real problem of rising social disparity.

    1. Dear Dagma
      The ideals of PEGIDA are mainly against Islam, the horrid fascist IDEOLOGY rather than Muslims themselves. I would urge you to look up Videos by Robert Spencer and really be informed about the dangers of allowing Islamic incursions into countries with an age old Judeo-Christian culture-like Germany!

  2. I honestly think that immigration should be similar to Canada. In Canada no religion or immigrants have a high percentage compared to others. So instead of a majority of Muslims, Germans would get all kinds of immigrants in equal proportion. Example, eastern Europeans, Indians, chinese, South Americans. It has worked pretty well. You guys got to understand it can be a shock when a large number of a minority come in. I experienced it here. Towns would change every 5 years completely by race, (Indians movement in, Italians movement out etc…)until the government started doing micro immigration, now different immigrants can live together.

  3. Jonathan, from both the tone and content of your blog it is very obvious that you know next to nothing about Islam,a horrid,left-wing fascist ideology which by the way has done a great job of damaging your native country. I can thoroughly recommend that you look up an excellent VIDEOD speech given by the admirable Geert Wilders to a learned Copenhagen audience a year or two ago. It might do something to lessen your obvious left-wing fanaticism and mollify your stupidity regarding the Bible. I also strongly recommend that you contrast Jesus Christ’s Sermon on the Mount(St.Matthew ch 5) with the 116 verses in the Qu’ran and Hadith calling for death,destruction and submission for all non-Muslims and calling Christians and Jews Apes and Pigs.

    1. right, because the god of the bible didn’t wreak havoc through locust swarms and raining sulfur or purge the earth in a flood according to your mythology :>

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